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CCarter Weekly #6 - Behind Enemy lines
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#The Short Cutts

So I was doing an interview down at the Plex and I asked Matt what he thought about AgentBlackHat and the BHU, got an interesting response...




Lols, Anyways, This is kind of old but I assume some people aren't aware of it, If you ever want to know the answer to a Cutts video, without actually having to listen to the nonsense coming out of his mouth, just visit The Short Cutts. It's updated with the latest videos, and displays the answer in 1 sentence with a link to the propaganda video if you would like to see the gatekeeper on his soapbox. #GooglePray

#Bing & DuckDuckGo... Fucking seriously?

I don't want to waste too much time on this one, but Bing is being integrated into the next generation of OS X - Yosemite, in the spotlight feature. I've never used Spotlight to search cause I assumed it opened up Safari, but apparently it'll open up in the default browser. Now this means, we'll have to start figuring out how to rank in Bing, like seriously considering it. It's been powering Siri, for a while now, so if you are looking to get into the lucrative Mac OS X audience... (sigh)... I need a moment. We'll have to start looking into what's going on with Bing. (link: http://searchengineland.com/spotlight-drops-google-bing-193038)



And, DuckDuckGo will be the new default search engine for Private Browsing on Safari. (link: http://searchengineland.com/big-win-duckduckgo-apple-adding-safari-private-search-option-193081). I'm not mad at DuckDuckGo but it's only that Google still gives out superior results at every angle... as a consumer it's a retarded move. As a business owner - getting into those search engines and ranking is just going to be more additional work - as an SEO, I'm going to carry on with Google, fuck that noise. As a marketer - I'm smart enough not to have all my eggs in one basket (SEO).

#uhhh... These SEO Bloggers... AGAIN...

Must have been a slow day in SEO news or something, but after the egg on the face about the update being Panda 4.0 and in fact NOT Penguin... We come across this:

Google May Be Pushing Out A New Update: Possibly Penguin?

... seriously?

Well... Search Engine Land-Fill answered the question: No, Google Says There’s Been No Penguin Update

... that's riveting reporting there... This is some serious circle-jerking between these two "SEO" reporting operations.

"Is that penguin?" - "No."

"Okay, but wait, is this penguin", "Still, no..."

Riveting reporting... Just stop already...


#58% Say Google's Penalties Are Immoral

Recent search engine roundtable article : 58% Say Google's Penalties Are Immoral

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Zach (Comment Section):

The reason why i find Google Penalties are immoral because its not uniformed. We often see our competitors doing the same thing and they haven't got a penalty. Its not a leveled playing field. Even after submitted spam reports, they are aren't being affected. Sometimes we can assume, they might have disavowed the domains, but their spammy techniques is still the same for getting new links.

It should be leveled.



Did this faggot just state he reports his competitors to Google... But only after HE was caught doing the same 'spammy' technique and got penalized? "I got caught so I'm also going to snitch..." God damn these SEOers are such faggots...

But anyways, the overall article was retarded, more SEO Writers just circle-jerking themselves. It's clear there is nothing new during the daily struggles of SEO to write about so it's just non-sense drivel, but there is an underlying message that you need to take away. Your an idiot if you relied on a single 3rd party for your livelihood (Google), and want to sit back and not do any real marketing. So now when that gravy train is over, you complain...

Lettuce brie cereal for egg mayo-mint gin thyme... (Let's be serious for a moment in time - for the slow). This is your business, imagine if you created a brick and mortar store and simply waited for customers to come in through the door... After spending all that money are you just going to 'wait and see' what happens? Hell no, you are going to hustle, you need your return on investment back. You are going to buy billboards, hand our flyers, give discounts for the first purchase, drop mailers, advertise on the radio, and yes even put an ad in the yellow pages (this is offline Google in this analogy). You are going to hustle like there is no tomorrow. You'll sponsor local little league baseball games, you'll sponsor local events, you'll find out where the people which you are targeting gather, and go there to let them know about your store, your products, and services. Some times you'll just be casual about it, and when people ask what you do, you'll let them know, then hand them your business card, other times you'll be at a local chamber of commerce where you connect with other business owners which you can cross promote each other's services (link exchanges).

Are you starting to see what I'm getting to? You are suppose to hustle, not just rely on the online equivalent of yellow page advertising, Google. But that's what 90% of you SEOers are doing, just sitting around circle-jerking to the gurus of the IM forums instead of hustling to get customers, clients, and people to your site.

Most of you may not know but God of SEO got de-indexed some weeks back, and you know what he did to get back and actually generate MORE traffic than with simple SEO? He traffic leaked. I'm not a big fan of linking to his work cause he does enough self-promotion but he created a video about this which you guys should take a look at - http://godofseo.co/video/get-pwned-google/. It came down to the fact that he could either throw in the towel or leverage other traffic channels to generate traffic; at the 6:30 mark in the video he shows the results - more traffic than Google ever sent him...

MFW when the God of SEO does some CCarter Traffic Leaks...




Now he's transitioning to marketing... and with that new power and the Google chain's broken, he'll be doubly annoying while continuing to piss off everyone... j/k, actually not really.


#Behind Enemy Lines

Imagine this scenario. Earth gets visited by an alien race, and they're very friendly. They share several of their advanced technologies with us, things that make our lives a lot easier. Slowly and surely everyone is comfortable with them. One of the technologies is an advanced 'communication' line, which goes through a central database and allows you to instantly connect with anyone, anywhere around the world.

Everything is fine for awhile, until they start making some suggestions on our behavior. Some people get suspicious, but most carry on, and take their advice. Then the alien race starts dictating how we should treat our environment and that we should change our behavior even more. Well outrage happens and we end up going to war. Both sides take losses, but for the most part they take a lot less losses than us. We lose some major players on our side, and superstars - their small triumphs become campfire stories during the war to continue the fight. But our numbers continue to dwindle. Then someone discovers something... all the people that got hit were still using the alien communication lines... it was as if... the aliens were listening in on all their communications and knew when they were going to attack, and where they would retreat too... So you learn this information... What's your next move?

Logically, it's to ditch all the alien communication and use your own, right? You'll also make sure not to associate yourself with people that still use this alien technology.

Simple fucking logic. You don't use the enemy's lines of communication and/or technology to conduct attacks on the enemy... Tell that scenario to anyone with a IQ over 80 and they'll agree - If you are fighting someone, manipulating something, violating TOS of something, you don't coordinate your efforts using technology they created and own. Yet for some fucking reason there are SEOs, Blackhats, whitehats, link sellers, PBN operators all using fucking Gmail.



Think about that logic, you are using Google to coordinate your blackhat and SEO efforts. You guys already stopped using Google WMT for your blackhat properties, you stopped using Google Analytics... but yet continue using Gmail and some are even retarded enough to use Google Docs for their link selling efforts. Give me a fucking break. That's why I can't take you guys seriously...

No army in the world would go to war with someone, then continue using their technology to communicate - unless you were doing it on purpose to deceive the enemy. God of SEO actually tested this (http://godofseo.co/case-study/webspam-team-actively-monitoring-gmail/). A little while later, that site was fucked... One month later, they got all his properties, he was obviously put on some list.

I've seen lists like this before... The most outspoken, or the people causing waves, they get taken out. The problem with Google's approach is they just de-index them and think these blackhat SEOers are going to go get a job doing something else. No, by Google putting them on their list, they've essentially made them invisible to their future actions. No one that was de-index after being placed on the list has ever re-registered a new domain using their real name. Every single person I know is using someone else's name, some old lady in the middle of Montana with 3 kids and 4 grand children. Essentially by striking them down, they've only become more powerful than before.

Let me connect the dots for you on this Gmail non-sense. Someone was talking about Google Web and Search History, and how it really doesn't do anything to delete it cause Google saves it anyways (http://www.seroundtable.com/google-web-history-delete-18625.html). Well Cutts was not happy and this is what he had to say:

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Matt posted on Hacker News:

Just a quick point. The article says "there is no guarantee whatsoever that google does anything except for changing what they display to you."

If you're on the page at https://history.google.com/history/ and click on the gear and then "Help" the page about deleting search history is at https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/465 and it says

"What happens to your history when it's deleted

When you delete items from your Web History, they are no longer associated with your Google Account. However, Google may store searches in a separate logs system to prevent spam and abuse and to improve our services."

The article claims that there's no guarantee that Google does anything other than change the display. Google actually does quite a bit of work to disassociate items from your Google account if/when you delete them.

Sauce: http://www.seroundtable.com/google-web-history-delete-18625.html

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He (Cutts) then explains why Google does keep the search results for 18 months, for spam reasons. Matt said, "an easy example of preventing spam would be to detect and stop people trying to spam Google Suggest, which is based on queries that users do."

Sauce: http://www.seroundtable.com/google-web-history-delete-18625.html

The highlighted portion is critical to us. He admits that if you are a spammer (I'm going to throw in SEO, blackhatter as well), they will look at that data. The logical next conclusion is they will re-associate your account, and well... you know the rest. You guys also have to understand, it doesn't matter if you are logged in or not. As long as you are using the same IP address, re-associating past search queries the moment you login is rather easy.

On my websites I can watch an IP address move around, and the second they login, all that movement is associated with their real account, and grouped with other IPs they've logged in with. Not fucking difficult - yet you can't figure out how Google got Leith, and these other blackhatters, PBN owners, and link providers which were taken out? Cause they or their buyers were using Gmail to communicate - you don't even need a human to do it. They already scan your emails to serve you ads, so adding some 'blacklisted' keywords which then puts you on a 'monitoring' list is, what 5 seconds worth of work?

When I sold links, I always communicated with instant messagers - outside of Google's grasp. I never sent emails, and any buyer that wanted me to send them an email, I declined. It's a lot easier to say, "I don't send emails", then explain to them how retarded it is they are using Gmail to communicate about their SEO tactics which are link manipulating.

But don't take my word for it, as I was writing this weekly, I got a skype call from a very well known person on the internet which I'm close with.

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Him: "man, I'm paranoid, I just sent an email to a buyer, then I got some visits."

Me: "Did you send it through Gmail?"

Him: "Yeah, from one gmail to another. Here is a screenshot..."



Me: "[..] Bottomline, that's a scary screenshot man... Monitor your other sites, but I'd consider that site done... You're probably going to be on a list..."

Him: "Yeah, I'm probably on a few already..."

Bottomline, don't use service providers who use gmail, or worse - a fucking PayPal account connected to their gmail, then they really got every SEO link buying transaction. It's better to be paranoid then dead in the water. Junk Google Analytics, don't connect to Google WMT, and forget about Google Apps and Google Docs/Drive or whatever it's called. I really hope you guys aren't on Chrome - several people already noticed when they visit a brand new link, Googlebot comes along 10 mins later... so... You might want to re-think your activities.

Let me not even get into Google DNS... they literally know every website you are looking up... come on guys... Are you guys being serious? This is why I can't take most of you seriously.

I have no problem with you manipulating them, or spamming the internet (remember there is no such thing as "Spamming Google") - just don't use THEIR communication channels to conduct your attacks... that's just retarded.

When searching for "blackhat" stuff, use a VPN or proxy IP, and never ever login with that into a Google account. I'm surprised I have to even mention this shit, but it's propaganda at it's finest if you naively believe the webspam team has an honor code when fighting blackhat/SEO/spam. If Cutts wants to look into your gmail - there is nothing stopping him - that's the reality, if you don't want to believe in that reality -  keep using your gmail to talk about your SEO tactics - keep giving the enemy your battle plans, keep allowing the enemy behind your lines, just stop mentioning my name...

Good luck bros,

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Re: CCarter Weekly #6 - Behind Enemy lines
« Reply #1 about: 2 years ago »
Thanks a lot man lol!

Anyway very detailed thread again you're up to date, duckduckgo was just a news headline yesterday.

For the part about how Google knows you, they developed their algo to know you by Unique ID which is why they unify all their services in one place which is been done a year and a half from now, so Google plus page has numbers on the url these numbers are your Unique ID.

So its all connected to one place, your whole data, including search history, IP addresses, DNS traffic logs, documents, photos, all over these data mining they use something called "Knowledge Graph" that's a wide network pointing to each other Unique ID's of anyone you search or talk or email him or anything you do on Google's services, you fuck yourself also your neighbors !

Make sure to not share any of your data or you will taste a fucking bad days in your life especially if you are an SEO !

Hope this paragraph add some to your thread and helps also people to understand how they will shoot them selves if they still using Google's garbage.

Good night fellow users of BHU :)
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« Reply #2 about: 2 years ago »
Awesome post as usual. It's worth noting that it's not just Google and gmail. You touched on this talking about chrome but people need to think about all the other services they use as well. Their droid, YouTube, toolbar, blogspot for a pbn, and a bunch more. Just know what you are signing up for.

People should even consider Maps and any third party that uses gmail as a way to sign in as well.

Anyways, great analogies as always. In before someone posts that Google is an alien life form.


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« Reply #3 about: 2 years ago »
Every single person I know is using someone else's name, some old lady in the middle of Montana with 3 kids and 4 grand children. Essentially by striking them down, they've only become more powerful than before.

For those of us running only small, truly private networks strictly for our own sites, do we really need to worry about diversifying whois information? I just use regular whois privacy and I have never had any problems. Although this may be rare, if there was ever a dispute with who owns a domain, ICANN would discredit you if you put fraudulent whois info on the domain.

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Every single person I know is using someone else's name, some old lady in the middle of Montana with 3 kids and 4 grand children. Essentially by striking them down, they've only become more powerful than before.

For those of us running only small, truly private networks strictly for our own sites, do we really need to worry about diversifying whois information? I just use regular whois privacy and I have never had any problems. Although this may be rare, if there was ever a dispute with who owns a domain, ICANN would discredit you if you put fraudulent whois info on the domain.

She talk about strictly Black Hat, Money Site can be protected by Whois Privacy isn't a big matter, for legit Domain that hold a real business you need to put your real name and do Gray hat instead of Black Hat stuff.

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« Reply #5 about: 2 years ago »
For those of us running only small, truly private networks strictly for our own sites, do we really need to worry about diversifying whois information? I just use regular whois privacy and I have never had any problems. Although this may be rare, if there was ever a dispute with who owns a domain, ICANN would discredit you if you put fraudulent whois info on the domain.

I was talking about the people who have been individually targetted by Matt Cutts and the webspam team. It's not for simple penalizations or ranking drops. It's for 'public activists'. Cutts targeted Agent Blackhat, God of SEO, and in the past Mr. Stone and some others. Even if they register a domain under their real name it's already flagged and won't even be indexed. That's the blacklist - they don't really have a choice but to do more 'aggressive' privacy tactics.

She talk about strictly Black Hat, Money Site can be protected by Whois Privacy isn't a big matter, for legit Domain that hold a real business you need to put your real name and do Gray hat instead of Black Hat stuff.

She...?



Secret identity intact. Carry on...

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« Reply #6 about: 2 years ago »
You can't blame him Carter, you need to put up less videos of hot women speaking on your behalf on your website!

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You can't blame him Carter, you need to put up less videos of hot women speaking on your behalf on your website!


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« Reply #8 about: 2 years ago »
She...?



Secret identity intact. Carry on...

Did I broke some feminism rules here ?

I forgot you're a man cause you drop a lot of women pics.

Take this one :)



Family Picture :)
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« Reply #9 about: 2 years ago »
For those plugged into skynet its a fucking PITA to disconnect. Been meaning to do it for a while but when you have been using it for years its a super drag.


Starting the process today.

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These GIFs are oddly hypnotic, I can't stop looking at them, is this how people fail at SEO?

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Yep. Reading and never doing! Sadly, it's like that in most parts of life. No follow through.

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Bottomline, don't use service providers who use gmail, or worse - a fucking PayPal account connected to their gmail, then they really got every SEO link buying transaction. It's better to be paranoid then dead in the water. Junk Google Analytics, don't connect to Google WMT, and forget about Google Apps and Google Docs/Drive or whatever it's called. I really hope you guys aren't on Chrome - several people already noticed when they visit a brand new link, Googlebot comes along 10 mins later... so... You might want to re-think your activities.

Let me not even get into Google DNS... they literally know every website you are looking up... come on guys... Are you guys being serious? This is why I can't take most of you seriously.



When searching for "blackhat" stuff, use a VPN or proxy IP, and never ever login with that into a Google account. I'm surprised I have to even mention this shit, but it's propaganda at it's finest if you naively believe the webspam team has an honor code when fighting blackhat/SEO/spam. If Cutts wants to look into your gmail - there is nothing stopping him - that's the reality, if you don't want to believe in that reality -  keep using your gmail to talk about your SEO tactics - keep giving the enemy your battle plans, keep allowing the enemy behind your lines, just stop mentioning my name...


Which email provider and browser you advise to use?



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